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Hey guys,

 

Link building is one of the most time consuming activites out there. A lot of people try to do everything themselves but quickly lose their focus and end up wasting hundreds of hours building worthless links. As for me, I now outsource my link building activities so that I can focus on building and maintaining my sites. I use services of reputed sellers from gig sites like Fiverr and few webmaster forums and it has helped me greatly to focus on other important things. What is your opinion on outsourcing? Do you outsource link building and what is your experience with service providers?

 

Bryce

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I ahve to say some outsourcers are good too. I had a friend who had outsourced the ranking of 20 sites to a company he found via freelance forum. The deal was he gets ranked in 3 months (all sites) and he pays 450$ at the end of 3 months, else they will continue the work till all sites are ranked for free.

 

The point being...you just need to find them, they are there.. Try Odesk and Elance. Best freelance professionals in my opinion.

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Well the link building needs to be natural and not done by bots.

 

The last Google Panda update penalized people that built links with bots using similar keywords/plugs. They are saying now you need to build them using up to 10 different keywords and several different iterations of your comment text.

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The best - and only - way to build links on most sites is with legitimate comments and, unless you have a lot of time to do it, that means paying someone. Personally, I don't bother: the vast majority are nofollows anyway. Sure, some spiders follow them regardless of the tag but, to be honest, the time input is huge.

 

As for paying someone to do it, I'm sure there are some very good link-builders out there but going on the stuff I've seen posted on my blogs and forum (or rather, TRYING to be posted...) the majority of them can't string four words together into something meaningful. Then they spin it and make it sound even worse.

 

I've taken to removing the links and letting them through moderation, just to piss them off. :)

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Yes, I do it. But what I do is hire VA's and train them as much as possible. I make sure they do exactly what's told to them. Thsi way, I'm able to get the most out of my time and money.

That's sort of what I do. Just replace the word VA's with teenagers. My teens can write far more intelligibly than most outsourcers and they think having time on the computer is awesome (even if I'm making them work). It's kind of like my own little sweatshop! I'm always looking for better ways to streamline the processes so that I can teach my kids to do the parts that waste my time. I figure it's a good education for them in skills they will eventually want to hand off to their own team at some point in the future.

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That's sort of what I do. Just replace the word VA's with teenagers. My teens can write far more intelligibly than most outsourcers and they think having time on the computer is awesome (even if I'm making them work). It's kind of like my own little sweatshop! I'm always looking for better ways to streamline the processes so that I can teach my kids to do the parts that waste my time. I figure it's a good education for them in skills they will eventually want to hand off to their own team at some point in the future.

 

And where do you hire these teens? Forums like these?

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And where do you hire these teens? Forums like these?

 

LOL, no, I got mine the hard way... childbirth and child rearing! LOL... but the nice thing is that they come with friends, now.

 

However, our high school has a web technology class and I've gotten a lot of useful work out of the town geeks that way. It might be worthwhile finding out if your local high school or junior college has some sort of job board.

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LOL, no, I got mine the hard way... childbirth and child rearing! LOL... but the nice thing is that they come with friends, now.

 

However, our high school has a web technology class and I've gotten a lot of useful work out of the town geeks that way. It might be worthwhile finding out if your local high school or junior college has some sort of job board.

 

There's nothing like that in most schools in my country. Do you think that if we post our ads on odesk saying we want only teens, could that work?

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There's nothing like that in most schools in my country. Do you think that if we post our ads on odesk saying we want only teens, could that work?

 

You'll have to be very, very careful with that for two reasons:

 

1. Most online freelancing services have "must be over 18" in their terms, so you'd be (borderline) breaching their posting terms by asking for teens. At the very least, they'd consider you very dodgy!

 

2. There are laws and rules about employing minors that are VERY strict. If they're your own kids it's a different matter, of course, but if you're employing other people's children you need their parents' (signed) permission and to comply with a LOT of legislation. If not - and someone reports you - you're potentially looking at prison time (though that'd be extreme, obviously).

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In my case link building is not something you need to do overnight. I have started working on this from the day I opened my site. I am posting daily in forums / blogs, submit the link etc. It's a well controlled process, since I am careful where I plug in my link. It takes me few minutes/day and I can also track my progress. Not to mention, after reading Nathan's story, I'm even more warry of letting strangers do this stuff.

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You'll have to be very, very careful with that for two reasons:

 

1. Most online freelancing services have "must be over 18" in their terms, so you'd be (borderline) breaching their posting terms by asking for teens. At the very least, they'd consider you very dodgy!

 

2. There are laws and rules about employing minors that are VERY strict. If they're your own kids it's a different matter, of course, but if you're employing other people's children you need their parents' (signed) permission and to comply with a LOT of legislation. If not - and someone reports you - you're potentially looking at prison time (though that'd be extreme, obviously).

 

Yeah, that's why I stick with mostly my home-grown crew! If you happen to be friends with a homeschooling mom with teens you could always ask if they wanted to do it as a part of their "technology" curriculum! A lot of homeschoolers are big on making sure their children have actual skills when they are adults, in addition to their basic education.

 

You'd probably be better off if you tried to hire college students instead... they'd be over 18 (not earning you the skeevy perv label) but they're still usually willing to work relatively inexpensively and they're usually native English speakers. Try the English department at the closest university or junior college, or the business department.

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You'll have to be very, very careful with that for two reasons:

 

1. Most online freelancing services have "must be over 18" in their terms, so you'd be (borderline) breaching their posting terms by asking for teens. At the very least, they'd consider you very dodgy!

 

2. There are laws and rules about employing minors that are VERY strict. If they're your own kids it's a different matter, of course, but if you're employing other people's children you need their parents' (signed) permission and to comply with a LOT of legislation. If not - and someone reports you - you're potentially looking at prison time (though that'd be extreme, obviously).

 

That seems like a lot to deal with. I guess experienced older people are much better than teens, than to take so much trouble.

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Yeah, that's why I stick with mostly my home-grown crew! If you happen to be friends with a homeschooling mom with teens you could always ask if they wanted to do it as a part of their "technology" curriculum! A lot of homeschoolers are big on making sure their children have actual skills when they are adults, in addition to their basic education.

 

That seems. . . almost cruel! I guess it's great for these kids to have an education, and real-world experience is great for this, but man I'd feel weird about doing this myself.

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