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I have some basic idea about SEO.

 

However,

I wrote an article. It took a month before it appeared on 26th page of google search results. After some serious "link building" by answering people's related questions on Yahoo Answers with links to my article, as well as posting them at a few other places. It's now on page 2 of the google search results.

 

I posted topics of the same keyword title on another same niche forum with a small "article" and a link to my own article. That thread I posted on someone else's forum quickly appeared on the first page of google search results on the very next day.

 

Why?

 

I am sure my article have way more keywords and better content than my threads on someone else's forum. Why is that thread jump up in rank so quickly? Is it because that domain have way higher Google Rank than my newly launched rank 0 site?

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Sounds like that 2nd site just gets indexed much faster. Also must be a higher traffic forum with a higher page rank.

 

Why? What makes those sites get indexed faster?

 

Also what makes those sites be able to get on the first page of search engine results with so little content compare to my real informative 2000+ words article?

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I very much doubt the threads I posted on someone else's forum have any link at all lol.

At least not within that one day. I didn't even get any reply to it, but it just appeared as top 3 on first page of google by the same keyword I've tried to optimize for one of my articles which has hundreds backlinks now after two months.

 

Domain age... well those forums are many years old. I can't beat that if it is that important.

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Spiders are not a problem. My main site is using Wordpress, so my articles are on wordpress pages. My forum is MyBB. I have XML site map for MyBB with Google SEO tools installed.

 

I can see Google bot on the forum most of the time.

 

It is not about being indexed, it's the indexed pages can't be found due to they are not ranked high even though they have more content than what's on the first page of google results.

 

The domain age prejudice sucks.

How long before a new domain not being looked down upon by search engines?

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So it's a managed server?

I have no idea what that mean.

 

And have you submitted to Google Webmaster Tools?

Nope. I use multiple other site checkers combined with the very detailed Hostgator's control panel to check on statistics.

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Well you need to submit your sitemap to http://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/ . That will let Google have a map of your site and alert it to new content. You can then see stats on what people search to get to your site, how many backlinks you have, how many pages are indexed ect...

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Google had given me a bad taste my my mouth since they banned my adsense on youtube for apparently no reason.

 

I had 20 videos on youtube. They get total 200~300 views per day. Then I got the email asking me to join adsense to monetize the video from youtube. So I joined. It was approved. I had no web site back then. After the videos were monetized, they was receiving (total) anywhere from 3 clicks to 16 clicks a day from those 200~300 views. 12 days later, my adsense was disabled for "risk of invalid clicks" out of blue after my account just reached $5.

 

I had no idea what was wrong and I assumed they false alarmed over some legit clicks as "invalid clicks". Until some people told me "Risk of invalid clicks" = no invalid click yet, but there is a risk.

 

That completely lost me. What kind of "risk" do total legit home made videos on youtube have? Of course they didn't tell me about this "risk".

 

Without more information from them (which they refuse to give), I don't even know what to appeal. I provided all the information I know and all the possible cause of the false alarm I can think of (guess really...since they refuse to give needed info for the appeal) in the one and only chance of appeal. It was declined with no reason but "we decide not to restore your account at this time"... why don't they just be straight and say "We can't tell you why we banned you, so we decide to keep the ban for life"? Once banned, it is banned for life.

 

It was until after my adsense was banned, I realized there are millions people out there in the same situation. There was absolutely no reason for any real human working at Google to pick out my $5 account on the 12th day... it was all done automatically by the automatic robots. The appeal fail email was sent to me at around 6am U.S. eastern time. It must be from India or auto robots again.

 

 

I launched the web site 2 days before my adsense was disabled. Just so you wondering, there was no ad on my web site. Adsense was only displaying on my youtube videos. I was still working on the basics on my web site... on my birthday, with a high fever. Great gift I got from google just 2 days later. Just great.

 

I do not want Google to tie my new web site to my banned adsense account. They are lame. Extremely lame.

They can ban you at any time without giving you a legit reason. There are thousands of such complains out there on the internet if you search for them. It doesn't matter if you think you have followed the rules. It will just happen out of blue completely surprise you. Many people were banned right before they suppose to receive a huge payment from Google, and of course Google takes away all that payment when they disable those people's accounts. Although they claim they have refunded the money to the adword advertisers, who is there to oversee this? Nobody! People also say Google regularly take clicks off with the claim of "invalid clicks" and they also claim those taken away clicks were refunded to advertisers. I searched around, never heard of any adword users got refund for "invalid clicks".

 

 

 

I have seen people saying "My adsense account is in good standing". Sure.. there are only two outcomes, either you still have one account, or you have lost it. There is no good standing or bad standing. You will have your account until they ban you. No (real) reason will be given.

 

 

I have already phased out all my google accounts, email, etc. Not going to use them ever.

They also track the mac address of your computer, on the top of your home address. Unless you move your home, get all new computer with all new IPs without ever moving over any of the old computers or log into any old google accounts, they will know it is you.

 

I know some people might not believe Google can ban people without a legit reason. The truth is, you will change your mind when it happen to you. Yes, it can happen to anyone at any time. Because Google think they can shit on your head for no reason at any time. Unless you are famous. I have read articles of two famous figures got their Adsense accounts back after being banned for no reason simply by using their big names. Unfortunately for ordinary people, we have no such luck.

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I haven't had problems with Google Adsense, but I have had issues with Google Adwords and received a similar response which did make me pretty angry. So I feel your pain. Their support is a complete joke and they don't provide any good reasons to why you are banned.

 

But with that said even though we are frustrated with them doesn't mean you shouldn't submit your site to their Webmaster Tools. I mean if you don't think of all the traffic you will be missing out on. Google is the most used search engine in the world don't you want a piece of that search traffic?

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They have no support for adsense. At least no human support.

 

You can't reach any human beings at adsense. They think they have no reason to talk to you. They can take your money then point finger at you called you thief at the same time and then ignore you for the rest of your life.

 

I will sign up with webmaster tools eventually. When I get a new computer and move to a new address.

 

Currently Hostgator's statistics is pretty detailed, including where all the people clicked from. They display individual web address where people come from, and tell you how many people come from there. As well as how many views on each page on your site.

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I think you are getting the 2 confused.

 

Google Analytics - They show where your traffic comes from, keywords used to get to your site, views per day/month ect...

 

Google Webmaster Tools - Helps Google index all pages on your site correctly. You submit your sitemap to them and they index all your pages and is a map for them to find all pages.

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Currently I submit site map manually through Hostgator tools every other day or so.

 

I have site map on my forum too, and I see spiders browse it regularly.

 

All google accounts are tied together. They even tied Youtube account into it. I ditched everything tied to Google. Or they will tie my new web site to the disabled adsense account.

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