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I remember using Joomla when I was a wee' old lad and new to the whole web development scene. I found it thoroughly Complicating, And As far as I can remember... it Still is complicating.

What are your guys opinions... Do you think that after you get over it's terrible learning curve it's a powerful software ? Or you might aswell stick to some thing like wordpress?

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I have only been inside a Joomla site just once in my life. I really mean the inside because I logged in with an admin password. Not really very complicated but then again I wasn't in the mood to learn anything new. I am the type that wouldn't change if nothing is broken. So far, Wordpress is doing everything that I want, so I am sticking to Wordpress and learning more about it with each passing day.

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Joomla I remember was a hog, served pages slowly for some reason.

This comes from multiple developers and creating a software trying to please everyone, it ends up turning your code into poorly optimized junk.

 

Learning curves are a sign of complex software which are usually powerful. My CMS of choice has been Drupal, it's extremely scalable.

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This comes from multiple developers and creating a software trying to please everyone, it ends up turning your code into poorly optimized junk.

 

Learning curves are a sign of complex software which are usually powerful. My CMS of choice has been Drupal, it's extremely scalable.

 

True and not true. It depends on the mindset of the developers. If they think that the users of their software are going to be coders, then they will allow access to things under the hood and thus make the learning curve very much steeper. If they think that their users are more or less like the old lady down the street then they will make their software as simple to use as possible, making the learning curve nearly non-existent.

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Ah yes i remember Drupal... I used that aswell.. I belive that was even more complex than joomla

 

It is DEF more complex than joomla, however for a developer a lot nicer to use.

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True and not true. It depends on the mindset of the developers. If they think that the users of their software are going to be coders, then they will allow access to things under the hood and thus make the learning curve very much steeper. If they think that their users are more or less like the old lady down the street then they will make their software as simple to use as possible, making the learning curve nearly non-existent.

I should have re-worded it better, but I was talking more of having people quit/hired with different styles of coding on a single project. But you bring up a valid point.

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It is still possible to have many people working on one project and keeping it under control.

 

I think something like this is being done with Debian. They have a set of guidelines by which they strictly compare everything that's added to the Debian database. Can be a bit frustrating at times not to be able to find the latest versions of certain software there but on the other hand there is comfort in knowing that someone is overseeing things in general.

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I should have re-worded it better, but I was talking more of having people quit/hired with different styles of coding on a single project. But you bring up a valid point.

Ahh yes.. DIfferent coding methods can cause a stir in development... But code is code... I doubt anything significant can change through that

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I can't say I used Joomla, but I'm for anything that will let me do what I want/need to do. If at the end of the day, I have the control, power and flexibility to accomplish my task, then I'm in. If it means there is a learning curve, that's ok. Yes, it's a pain to wander around at first wondering how to do something, but I would rather deal with that then get frustrated because I have to work with a piece of software that just will not let me do what needs to be done and instead makes me settle for hokiness.

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Ahh yes.. DIfferent coding methods can cause a stir in development... But code is code... I doubt anything significant can change through that

 

No, not exactly true. It's only true in the sense that code is just pixels.

 

Although programming is thought of as a science, it is actually more of an art. Every programmer has his own style of doing things. This would not be discernible in little snippets of code. However, when you look at the program as a whole, you can see certain characteristics.

 

If these characteristics are consistent, then we would call it an easy-to-learn program. However, if the program is just a hodge-podge of bits and pieces by different programmers with different styles, then the final result is simply chaos.

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Ahh yes.. DIfferent coding methods can cause a stir in development... But code is code... I doubt anything significant can change through that

 

You couldnt be more wrong LOL. Coding methods can MASSIVELY change things. Performance, user interface, program flow, data methodology. Just look at something really simple. As someone who has coded websites for years to code a modification for a site which has been written with MVC design, or someone who has coded in vb for years to use correct Object Oriented design patterns.

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If you have little or no (formal) understanding of software development and programming, or can't find someone with that skill set to maintain your site for you, then sticking to Wordpress as a CMS is the fastest, safest choice to getting your site up and running.

 

Joomla and Drupal are more for people who know what they're doing, and either don't like Wordpress (which is in essence a blogging platform) or feel constrained by WP's limitations.

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You couldnt be more wrong LOL. Coding methods can MASSIVELY change things. Performance, user interface, program flow, data methodology. Just look at something really simple. As someone who has coded websites for years to code a modification for a site which has been written with MVC design, or someone who has coded in vb for years to use correct Object Oriented design patterns.

Hmm I see.

I guess i ahve to be a more experienced coder to understand

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