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Hey Nathan, This is a neat little feature for both the contest and your future economy system
A button next to each post that moderators and administrators can use to not count that post

See now there are rules of no spamming set for the contest, but people still tend to do that, so a button that when clicked, will deduct that post and points from the person in the contest.

This would ensure people dont spam to win the contest :)

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Ooooo! 

 

Ridwan, do you happen to know the name of the plugin that adds that? Or Nathan, what system do you use that already does that? 

 

That could really simplify contests that rely on quality instead of trying to keep track of it more manually. 

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It's a great idea although I think rather then have an approval/rejection system that has to have human contact a simple over X number of characters, X number of words or 1 point every 2 minutes for this might work better.

 

Why shove all the work onto the staff? A good system should allow the software to do most of it all by themselfs. 

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I am in favor of making most of the work automated.

 

Probably IBEconomy already has something where virtual currency is awarded only for posts beyond a certain number of words or characters. I know SMFShop has that so IPB should have it, too.

 

However, there is still a need for human intervention. Computers, believe it or not, are incredibly stupid machines. I still remember one forum where they had a minimum of 11 characters to make a post. So some members would post something like "Agree. 11-characters." just to qualify as a post.

 

Actually we do not need a separate button to remove spam posts. We can always report a post if we think that it is spam. Just put something like 'This does not count' in the reason for the report. Then the moderators can decide whether to deduct the points or not.

 

Of course, this will give some extra work to the moderators. However, I don't think the question of extra work should be an issue. After all, what's the point of having moderators if they cannot keep the forum free of spam and fluff? Of course, that's my personal view of what a moderator should do. Not really sure what Nathan thinks moderators should be doing here. His opinion is actually what counts in this matter.

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Of course, Nathan, he who pays the piper calls the tune. Or, in this case, he who pays the bills, calls the shots. In that case, how about a list of examples of 'uncountable' posts so that we know what not to post?

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Well Yes you can set an automated number of Words for it to be counted etc..
But they again I can just copy anything off of any website and get points.
A human cant make a mistake on the other hand.
Although some automation is probably necessary

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Well, if someone spams with copy and paste content, that would be very easy to spot. Just one click on the report button and the moderator will take care of it. The automatic process should take care of most spam violations leaving the exceptional cases to the moderators to handle. Overall, the participation of the entire community is necessary to keep this forum spam-free.

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If this isn't a feature already in IBEconomy, then PM Eric on his support forum with the idea. He's a good guy and would probably code a plugin for it if you asked him. :D

 

Is he really that responsive to suggestions? That would be great. Then all we have to do is supply him with ideas and he makes them into reality. btw has he done that consistently before? Is there some place where I can see people making suggestions which he turns into reality?

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Well, if someone spams with copy and paste content, that would be very easy to spot. Just one click on the report button and the moderator will take care of it. The automatic process should take care of most spam violations leaving the exceptional cases to the moderators to handle. Overall, the participation of the entire community is necessary to keep this forum spam-free.

Well yeah, but instead of the moderator completely deleting the post, this way it can be just taken off his points in some way

Im guessing this only applies to the Power Contest plugin and not for the IBExonomy in certain ways

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Ridwan, the only problem with that in terms of saving a moderator some hassle is that the moderator will have to answer questions along the lines of "hey, why are my posts not counting" along with the ever present "the world is ending and this place sucks" rant for having been cheated. I bet someone will even pull the lawyer card at a moderator for discounting a post, some people are very... dramatic.  Will it really save time and effort?  I guess we'll find out!

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@Ridwan

It will, or should, apply to the IBEconomy as much as it applies to the Power Contest. What it boils down to is that Nathan is putting his money on the line. So, whether IBEconomy or Power Contest, there has to be some kind of control in place to make sure that he's getting value for the money he spent.

 

@bigbigfan

Yes, there will always be people who will never be happy with the decision of the moderators. I don't envy the moderators. They are in a situation where they will be damned if they do and damned just as badly if they don't. If they do not keep out the spam, some members will say "What's the use of having moderators if they do nothing to keep this forum clean?". When they clean up the spam, some members will say "Who do you think you are to decide that my post is spam?"

 

Nevertheless, the work of cleaning up the spam must be done, and the moderators have to do it because no one else can.

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